SF Planning Commission · Public Comment

1865 CLAY STREET

58-6315 · 1865 CLAY STREET

93comments
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16hearings
200020012002200320042005in person2000-04-13 — 36 comments, 53% in favour (click to read)2000-06-08 — 20 comments, 35% in favour (click to read)2000-08-24 — 29 comments, 21% in favour (click to read)2000-10-05 — 2 comments, position not recorded (click to read)2000-10-19 — 2 comments, position not recorded (click to read)2000-11-16 — 4 comments, 50% in favour (click to read)email
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13 Apr 2000 — approve with conditionsApr 200008 Jun 2000 — continuance20 Jul 2000 — continuance10 Aug 2000 — continuance24 Aug 2000 — disapprove14 Sep 2000 — continuance05 Oct 2000 — approve with conditions12 Oct 2000 — continuance19 Oct 2000 — approve with conditions26 Oct 2000 — continuance16 Nov 2000 — approve07 Dec 2000 — continuance14 Dec 2000 — continuance25 Jan 2001 — approve27 Feb 2003 — approve with conditions15 Sep 2005 — approveSep 2005
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Comments by hearing (93)

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2000-04-13 · 36 comments · 19 / 17
Harry O · spoken · 2000-04-13 · support
'Brien - This is the schools first conditional application. - There is no fixed limit on enrollment in schools. - The project will improve the school not only for parents and students but also for the neighborhood. - An acoustical report demonstrates that the school will not be noisier. - The neighbors would like to have the enrollment reduced. - The disagreement com… show more
Barbara Rosenberg · spoken · 2000-04-13 · oppose
former high school teacher and neighbor - Concerned with the class size increase which will affect the education of the students.
Jace Levinson · spoken · 2000-04-13 · oppose
Architect - has been asked to review the impact on the neighborhood properties.
Francie Petriceli · spoken · 2000-04-13 · oppose
- The school did not talk to neighbors before they completed their master plan. - At first the school mentioned they would build an annex but later came out with the current proposed building. The school has shown little regards to communicate with the neighborhood.
Jill Jordan · spoken · 2000-04-13 · oppose
Resident - There are many traffic problems in the neighborhood. - Double parking has been a problem for many years.
Alan Anderson · spoken · 2000-04-13 · oppose
resident
Leonard Levy · spoken · 2000-04-13 · oppose
resident - There is an importance on noise since the airport has provided funding to insulate schools near the airport. - The block already suffers from over activity.
Cal Tilden · spoken · 2000-04-13 · oppose
has lived in the neighborhood 65 years. What was promised when the permit was issued to rebuild the school, and some of those promises were not kept.
Michael Carview · spoken · 2000-04-13 · oppose
- There is an adverse impact on neighborhood and neighbors - There is a privacy, traffic, etc issues will impact the neighborhood - There is no need for commercially-related traffic in the neighborhood.
Landa Miles · spoken · 2000-04-13 · oppose
Resident
Ron Masa · spoken · 2000-04-13 · oppose
resident
Louise Sampson · spoken · 2000-04-13 · oppose
Resident - There is a profound impact on noise near her home. - There is staggered recess which makes the noise constant all day.
Marylin Masa · spoken · 2000-04-13 · oppose
Resident
Tom Perkins · spoken · 2000-04-13 · oppose
Resident - He believes that there will be a problem with balls hitting the sky glass.
Edmund McDonald · spoken · 2000-04-13 · oppose
Resident
John Sanger · spoken · 2000-04-13 · oppose
Sanger and Olson - This is a very difficult process for everyone involved. - Under the planning code it is intended for condition use applications be difficult to obtain.
Walter Newman · spoken · 2000-04-13 · oppose
representative of the board of the directors of the presidio heights - The proposed expansion is too intensive for this site. - The school expansion will increase tremendously the problems to this quiet neighborhood.
David Pettus · spoken · 2000-04-13 · oppose
345 Washington Street for 20 years.
Macy Clumpus · spoken · 2000-04-13 · support
4th grade students - The park near the school has been kept clean by the students by keeping the park clean, closing gopher holes, etc.
Nancy Davis · spoken · 2000-04-13 · support
Parent and member of trustees
Merna Chapman · spoken · 2000-04-13 · support
Parent of an Alumni
Carey Davis · spoken · 2000-04-13 · support
Director of Presidio Hill School - This school opened in 1918 and it was one of the first buildings of the neighborhood. - The school was founded by two Jewish sisters - The current school does not have a library, science, art space - Most of public schools are full and there is a need for more space for appropriate education. - Some students will receive scholarships others wi… show more
Bob Baum · spoken · 2000-04-13 · support
architect of Presidio Hill School - The project is code confirming in all areas. - To minimize the visual impact in the neighborhood, the rooftop area has been removed. - Great care has been taking to designing the visual character of the addition of the school. - The street scape will remain. - It is inaccurate that the design of this addition will remove open space. - There will be … show more
Christine Ellbell · spoken · 2000-04-13 · support
Member of the Board of Trustees and Parent of student of Presidio Hill School. - There has been many hours of analyzation in regards to the design of the addition. - They cannot agree to disagree summer school, cannot agree to a deed , cannot agree to a decrease of student enrollment.
Sophie Gunther · spoken · 2000-04-13 · support
4th grade students - The park near the school has been kept clean by the students by keeping the park clean, closing gopher holes, etc.
Mark Gunther · spoken · 2000-04-13 · support
Immediate Past President of the Board of Trustees and neighbor ( +) Tila ? - Parent of a 1st grader ( +) Leo Williams - Former Director
Arania Row · spoken · 2000-04-13 · support
5th Grade teacher - Member of Admissions Committee In an intimate environment the school has
Joyce McMan · spoken · 2000-04-13 · support
neighbor - There are many amenities and services in the neighborhood. - The school should have the same rights to improve and renovate as the other neighbors have to do the same to their homes. - There have been families that leave San Francisco because there is not enough space in schools. - The school is being responsible for improving the quality of the education provided to its students.
Josefina Bates · spoken · 2000-04-13 · support
Spanish Teacher for Entire School - She doesn 't have a classroom and shares her desk with other teachers. - The lack of space makes their jobs more difficult.
Martin More · spoken · 2000-04-13 · support
7th grade teacher
Marvin Villavicencio · spoken · 2000-04-13 · support
Student
Keith Cangerian · spoken · 2000-04-13 · support
Parent of 2 children - resident of the neighborhood
Lori McKenzie · spoken · 2000-04-13 · support
Parent
David Lohar · spoken · 2000-04-13 · support
Parent - member of the board of trustees
Dennis Kim · spoken · 2000-04-13 · support
Middle School Math Teachers - The mission of the school is to provide students to become a better resident. - The addition of the school and the increase of educational facilities will provide more opportunities to the students.
Emily Harrison · spoken · 2000-04-13 · support
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2000-06-08 · 20 comments · 7 / 13
Alice Barkley · spoken · 2000-06-08 · support
Representing Project Sponsor - So far the Commissioners have heard a lot of allocations about what has happened in the past. - If DBI required a permit for a demolition, the law would be abided and the permit would be applied for. - The project sponsor wanted to live in the back in-law while the front was being remodeled. - An encroachment that was talked about is a trim on top of the roof of the rear building. T… show more
Doug Engmann · spoken · 2000-06-08 · support
- Mr. Lam is a friend and has been his electrical contractor for many years. - From the neighbors description, one would not want Mr. Lam to come to their home. - There are no illegal units in the building. - The issue before the Commission is the penthouse. - Would like for project to be approved with the conditions imposed by staff.
Nancy Pearlman · spoken · 2000-06-08 · support
- She has lived on 12th Avenue for about 15 years. - Mr. Lam has been a great neighbor for 15 years. - Mr. Lam has always followed the rules and has requested permits when needed and has had inspectors come to his home.
David Lam · spoken · 2000-06-08 · support
- Mr. Lam?s proposed construction will make the neighborhood better in terms of appearance, consistency in architecture and look. - There are several large homes in the neighborhood.
Fai Wong · spoken · 2000-06-08 · support
- He lives across the street from Mr. Lam?s house. - MR. Lam has a lot of neighbors supporting him.
Weldon Smith · spoken · 2000-06-08 · support
- He would like to point out that the proposed houses will be a good addition to the neighborhood.
Jake McGoldrick · spoken · 2000-06-08 · oppose
Richmond Community Association - This project is too large and should not be allowed. - If this project is allowed, it will make neighbors want to build as high.
Nancy Lee Smith · spoken · 2000-06-08 · support
- She met Mr. Lam when he was a bachelor and had recently purchased his home. He is now married and has a family. - There is no better electrician than Mr. Lam
Jayne Loughry · spoken · 2000-06-08 · oppose
neighbor - Lives at 348 Funston Street - has lived there for the last 12 years. - There is a strong neighborhood association where she lives. - She is a gardener and many of the neighbors have front and back gardens. - The proposed construction will cause less light in her garden.
Bill McGuire · spoken · 2000-06-08 · oppose
has lived in the Richmond District for 30 years. - He has seen a lot of changes in the neighborhood. He belongs to Heritage, The Richmond Community Association and the Planning Association of the Richmond. - He believes that laws should be followed.
John Ngau · spoken · 2000-06-08 · oppose
neighbor - He has 3 concerns about the proposed construction: 1) the project is already too large; 2) parking is already a problem in the neighborhood; and 3) the project will cause a trend in the neighborhood when later someone else might want to build something similar in height.
Art Louie · spoken · 2000-06-08 · oppose
- Mr. Lam proposes to build 6 bathrooms and 2 furnaces. - He would like the Commission to reduce the construction in scale.
Galvin Wong · spoken · 2000-06-08 · oppose
- He would like Mr. Lam not to build such a large building.
Kai Loo · spoken · 2000-06-08 · oppose
- He grew up in San Francisco. - He is a frequent visitor to the Yu?s residence who live next door to Mr. Lam?s house. - Mr. Lam?s proposal for a 4-story building will change all the light and air coming into the Yu?s home. - There has to be some regard to the quality of life. - Read a letter from Mr. Sam Manthrop who is also a neighbor of Mr. Lam who expressed his concerns about light and air blockage to his home because of the proposed construction.
Loretia Yan · spoken · 2000-06-08 · oppose
- She truly enjoys the light and sunshine in her home. - The proposed 4-story building will definitely block the sunshine and light coming into her home.
Mary Jue Loo · spoken · 2000-06-08 · oppose
- She has lived with her parents until 1995. Her parents and Mr. Lam were friends until Mr. Lam began building and demolishing on his property without consideration for the neighbors. - Everything Mr. Lam has built is questionable.
Joanne Tinloy · spoken · 2000-06-08 · oppose
- He can understand Mr. Lam wanting to expand his home since she has a family also. - The proposed project has changed from a nice Victorian home with an in-law in the back to a 3 story building. - Her parents who live near the proposed site, recently installed new windows in their kitchen to bring more light into their home. IF the proposed project is approved, this sunlight will be blocked.
Helen Jue · spoken · 2000-06-08 · oppose
- She is speaking on behalf of her husband and daughter. - The proposed project is already too large. - The building will block light and air to her property.
Yew Mar · spoken · 2000-06-08 · oppose
Second DR Requestor - Lives next door to proposed site. - Mr. Lam built an illegal window. - Mr. Lam has already built 3 units. - There is a real problem of parking in the neighborhood. - He hopes the Commission doesn?t approve this project.
Stephen Williams · spoken · 2000-06-08 · oppose
Representing DR Requestor - The entire envelope is being altered. - No part of the existing envelope will exist after the proposed project. - In reality, this alternation is a demolition. - An illegal demolition has already occurred at this site. - The actual home at the proposed site used to be a Victorian cottage. It has now been rebuilt to a 3-story, 3 apartment building complex. - The lot now exceeds the de… show more
2000-08-24 · 29 comments · 6 / 23
Brian DeHuff · spoken · 2000-08-24 · oppose
- He has a tree in his back yard and one side of the tree is dying because of the sprays that are used to clean the cars.
Greg Hanson · spoken · 2000-08-24 · oppose
Haight/Divisadero Neighborhood Association - He has lived in the area for about 14 years. - He uses the car wash yet his issues are about broken promises. The car wash promised many things and nothing was ever carried out. - Bottom line: they can?t be trusted.
Joe Konopka · spoken · 2000-08-24 · oppose
Candidate for District Supervisor - He is very familiar with this area and uses the car wash yet he is not a customer on Saturday or Sunday because the traffic situation is horrendous. - If you build more, more will come. Expanding the car wash will make problems larger. - The housing issue is critical so spaces should be used for housing.
Susan Chandler · spoken · 2000-08-24 · oppose
- She lives on Page Street which is 1 block away from the car wash. - She lives in a classic Victorian neighborhood and she doesn?t believe in increasing commercialization. - The owners have proved that they can not be trusted.
Kirk Kleinschmidt · spoken · 2000-08-24 · oppose
- Since 1985 neighbors have repeatedly complained of the car wash. - The Commission imposed restrictions on the car wash yet none of these restrictions were ever implemented. - He would like the Commission to deny this conditional use. - If the Commission were to approve the conditional use, certain restrictions should be enforced and carried out.
Robin Haxo · spoken · 2000-08-24 · oppose
- Her family is happy that the car wash is doing so well, yet they should move to an area that can support heavy commercial use. - This Commission did not approve the expansion of a business just across the street. - She never takes her children along a very busy street and fight with cars that are either parked on the sidewalk or coming into the car wash.
Jeff Williams · spoken · 2000-08-24 · oppose
- He lives on Scott Street and is totally against the expansion of the car wash.
Patricia Vaughey · spoken · 2000-08-24 · oppose
- This appeal was done by Haight/Ashbury, Alamo Square and The Planning Association of Divisadero Street - As planners, they hear it all the time -- more housing is required. - You cannot allow someone to expand a project if they have not followed the rules.
Jerry Wilder · spoken · 2000-08-24 · oppose
- He is one of the people that run to the park and run back. He has slipped because of the oil that comes onto the sidewalk. - How many incidents will it take for the carwash to clean their mess?
Valery Hartwell · spoken · 2000-08-24 · oppose
Alamo Square Neighborhood Association - She agrees with all of the comments from the previous speakers--(showed pictures of her back yard and how her trees have died because of the chemicals sprayed onto the cars.)
Gary Goad · spoken · 2000-08-24 · oppose
- If the owners are going to spend thousands to expand their facility why can?t they spend $100 to clean their sidewalk?
Mark White · spoken · 2000-08-24 · oppose
- He feels very strongly about opposing this project. - He agrees to everything the previous speakers have said.
Mark Toparcher · spoken · 2000-08-24 · oppose
President of the Alamo Square Neighborhood Association - He would like the Commission to deny the expansion of the car wash. - This project goes against the principals of good urban design.
Jeremy Burchin · spoken · 2000-08-24 · oppose
- He has lived in the neighborhood for over 2 years. - He opposes the expansion of this project since he has slipped many times on the sidewalk, the parking is really bad, there are cars parked on the sidewalk, there is an incredible amount of noise, and there is an awful smell because of the chemicals used at the carwash.
Art Davis · spoken · 2000-08-24 · support
Represents Canadian Oil Company (owners of the Touchless Car Wash) - The carwash has been at this location for 50 years. - TCW has been the winner of many awards voted on by consumers. - This is not about increasing the peak capacity of the block. The wash tunnel will not be increased so the capacity of the cars would remain the same. - The company would just like to increase the work area for their employees by … show more
Richard Kay · spoken · 2000-08-24 · oppose
- For many years the car wash management has allowed the problems to get out of control--(he displayed pictures of cars on the sidewalk and cars parked in areas where it could be dangerous for pedestrians.)
Harry O?Brien · spoken · 2000-08-24 · support
- An important part of this project is to make the car wash useful for everyone -- neighbors, customers, employees. - Perhaps, in the history of the carwash, they may not have kept every single promise they have made. Yet, they have always tried to be considerate to the customers and the neighbors.
Javier Calix · spoken · 2000-08-24 · support
- He is the manager of the Touchless Car Wash. He has worked there for 11 years. - He is here to represent the workers of the car wash. - The workers are very much in favor of having a place where they can take their breaks and eat their lunch, as well as lockers to store their belongings.
Michael Smithwick · spoken · 2000-08-24 · oppose
- They gathered about 300 signatures in one day and people were almost fighting to sign. This proves the fact that there are more people against the expansion of the carwash than people who support it. - Expanding the car wash is supposed to eliminate problems but after analyzing the proposal it doesn?t appear to reduce any problems at all.
Peter Radovich · spoken · 2000-08-24 · support
- He is a new resident to the area. - The first thing he found was a good car wash to get his car clean. - This project helps the neighborhood as well as it?s workers. - Would like the Commission to approve this project.
Jason Jermane · spoken · 2000-08-24 · support
- He is also a new resident in this area. - He supports the car wash since the changes that they are planning make sense. - He gets his car washed there regularly.
Cynthia Marcucci · spoken · 2000-08-24 · oppose
- Haight/Divisadero Merchant?s Association - Her organization opposes the project. - The car wash is attracting new customers which will eventually cause more traffic and traffic problems. - There has been a 16-year track record in which the owner?s of the car wash has shown that they have not come through with their promises.
Robert Bentley · spoken · 2000-08-24 · support
- People who are opposing this project have been using false information and false tactics. - The people have created confusion and hysteria by using false information.
Rafael Zocca · spoken · 2000-08-24 · oppose
- He lives within 50 feet of this project--(he displayed a photograph of a backup of cars trying to get into the car wash.) - He has to go into the middle lane to go into his garage. - There has been no peace in this neighborhood. - The car wash owners need to realize that neighbors have had many problems with this car wash.
Mary Zocca · spoken · 2000-08-24 · oppose
- Her backyard is adjacent to the car wash. There is a section where they will be building a park. - The park will be for their employees. - Her fence goes up 6 feet yet the area of the car wash will have to be leveled and a 6 foot fence added--which will make it a 12 foot fence she will have to look at. - She wants a right to privacy and a right to good health.
Patrick Harris · spoken · 2000-08-24 · oppose
- He has talked to Art Davis regarding employment. Yet his people cannot fill out applications if Mr. Davis is not on the site. - He would like to have more community support from the owner of the car wash.
Holly Thuman · spoken · 2000-08-24 · oppose
- They gathered 300 signatures and everyone was against the expansion of the car wash.
Mark Lorenzer · spoken · 2000-08-24 · oppose
Chairman of the Haight/Divisadero Neighbors and Merchant?s Group - He lives a block away and has used the car wash yet he has found another car wash that is more convenient for him. - He is concerned that the representatives of the car wash come to the meetings and provide some information only, and don?t provide the residents with solutions to their questions and/or issues. - He has never met the owner of the car wash.
Mark Garner · spoken · 2000-08-24 · oppose
- Over the years his tenants have had many problems with this car wash. - There were a certain number of residential units promised yet only a few units were built. - The trees to buffer the noise were never built either. - A fence was supposed to built as well and it was never built.
2000-10-05 · 2 comments · no positions recorded
Alice Barkley · spoken · 2000-10-05 · —
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Steve Williams · spoken · 2000-10-05 · —
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2000-10-19 · 2 comments · no positions recorded
Steve Williams · spoken · 2000-10-19 · —
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Alice Barkley · spoken · 2000-10-19 · —
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2000-11-16 · 4 comments · 2 / 2
Troy Suchmacher · spoken · 2000-11-16 · support
- Project deserve approval
Harry O ?Brien · spoken · 2000-11-16 · support
- Conditions needs to be specific about what needs to be done before theexpansion takes place - Specific requirement that the project sponsor submit, before the cuing area be use a report reviewing the status of those conditions and how they been satisfied - Conditions of approval include: a new soundwall along the eastern edge of the property, a new landscaping and barriers at the sidewalk edging, 25 foot clear zo… show more
Patricia Vaughey · spoken · 2000-11-16 · oppose
- Monitors at least specified clearly, they should not only be for the Oak Street side but also to keep the two Divisadero Exits clear - Concerned the memo of understanding, between Ella Hills Hutch Community Center on 1984, 1985, 1992, 1994, 1997 and 1998 - MOUs were never signed - Another issue is enforcement of conditional of approvals - Neighbors do not approve this project - This project need to be denied
Valerie Hartwell · spoken · 2000-11-16 · oppose
- Commending the project sponsor for negotiating with the neighborhood - They can make all improvements without expanding